The Conversation -- November 4, 2024
David Frum of the Atlantic on the horrors Donald Trump has promised us. MB: I have not been a fan of Frum's, formerly a speechwriter for Bush the Younger. But this essay, to which laura h. pointed us and gave us the gift of a link, is a fine piece of writing, IMO. If my link here doesn't work, laura's link in Monday's comments does.
~~~ Bro Horror Story No. 1. Paul Mozur, et al., of the New York Times: "Right-wing groups, which use Telegram to organize real-world actions, are urging followers to watch the polls and stand up for their rights, in a harbinger of potential chaos. Groups backing ... Donald J. Trump recently sent messages to organize poll watchers to be ready to dispute votes in Democratic areas. Some posted images of armed men standing up for their rights to recruit for their cause. Others spread conspiracy theories that anything less than a Trump victory on Tuesday would be a miscarriage of justice worthy of revolt.... Telegram is a prime organizing tool for extremists, who have a tendency to turn digital coordination into real-world action.' Read on. ~~~
~~~ Bro Horror Story No. 2. Drew Harwell, et al., of the em> Washington Post: An "organized network of conservative activists and conspiracy theorists ... have spent years building online followings by promoting their belief in corrupt elections. On platforms controlled by [Elon] Musk -- and Trump, the majority owner of the online platform Truth Social -- they have worked to stand up a preemptive infrastructure stronger than the 'Stop the Steal' movement that grew after Trump's 2020 loss. The online movement ... four years ago was driven by a small, disordered and slapdash group of right-wing fringe accounts echoing Trump's claims of election fraud. Today, it is an army -- organized, widely promoted and shored up by an ideology that has permeated the Republican base.... [Besides using Xitter and Trump's failing social media platform,] election deniers also have gathered in Discord servers, Facebook pages, Telegram channels and video conference calls to share strategies to combat what they say is a secret 'deep state' vote-stealing scheme."
Andrew Sorkin, et al., of the New York Times: "Investors on Monday appear to be unwinding bets on the so-called Trump trade. In a major reversal, bonds have rallied and the dollar and crypto currencies have dipped in the race's final hours. One explanation is a surprising new poll that showed Vice President Kamala Harris, powered in part by support from women and older voters, edging ahead in deep-red Iowa -- a finding that's also led to a tightening of Donald Trump's lead in political prediction markets."
Australia's "6:57 News" anchor Mark Humphries reports on the U.S. presidential race. Take it just as seriously as Humphries does. Thanks to RAS for the lead: ~~~
Robert Reich explains why Elon Musk & his ilk will be f***ed if Trump loses the election. Interesting that Musk himself acknowledges he'll be f***ed if Trump loses. And wouldn't that be a shame? Thanks to RAS for the links.
Presidential Race
Katie Glueck & Nicholas Nehamas of the New York Times: "Vice President Kamala Harris made her final appeal to Michigan voters at an energetic rally on a college campus on Sunday, sounding notes of unity while drawing implicit contrasts with her opponent. The event at Michigan State University was her first rally since becoming a candidate in which she did not say ... Donald J. Trump's name. Instead, in the final hours of the race, she argued that her candidacy was focused on the future."
Normal v. Tired Old Liar. Adam Nagourney, et al., of the New York Times: On "the final Sunday of the campaign..., Vice President Kamala Harris and Donald J. Trump ... could not have been more different ... in message and demeanor.... Ms. Harris began her day at a Black church in Detroit where she told congregants that the nation was 'ready to bend the arc of history toward justice,' invoking the words of the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Mr. Trump began his at an outdoor rally at an airport in Pennsylvania where, his shoulders slumped and his voice subdued, he threw out his prepared remarks to tell supporters that he 'shouldn't have left' the White House after his loss to President Biden in 2020.... Mr. Trump was relatively subdued at his second stop of the day, in Kingston, N.C.... At his third rally, in Macon, Ga., he used harsh anti-immigrant rhetoric.... Ms. Harris was markedly more upbeat [than Mr. Trump] at a rally Sunday evening in East Lansing, Mich.... She opened her remarks in East Lansing, in a state with a significant population of Arab Americans, by acknowledging the devastation of the Gaza war."
Rebecca O'Brien of the New York Times: "... Donald J. Trump said on Sunday that he expected Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to have a 'big role' in a second administration, and acknowledged the possibility that he could take action against two major public health successes -- vaccines and the fluoridation of water -- if he won the presidency. The remarks, in an interview with NBC News, suggest that Mr. Kennedy, a former independent candidate, has assumed an elevated role in Mr. Trump's orbit.... Mr. Trump has voiced misgivings about vaccines in the past, including in a 2015 Republican primary debate and in a leaked phone call between him and Mr. Kennedy in July, as the former president tried to coax Mr. Kennedy to back his campaign.... Vice President Kamala Harris, in a podcast interview on 'The Checkup with Doctor Mike' that was released on Sunday, warned against Mr. Kennedy having a prominent role in public health if Mr. Trump wins. 'That's why I'm working so hard, because I know the stakes,' Harris said, in an exchange that the Harris campaign later amplified on social media." ~~~
~~~ Marie: I think if you read through the story, you'll conclude that Trump is shining on Bobby Junior and his fan base just to keep them on the reservation until after the election. For instance, this hardly sounds like a solid promise to ban vaccines: "Well, I'm going to talk to him and talk to other people, and I'll make a decision, but he's a very talented guy and has strong views." See Dan Diamond's WashPo story, linked below, for more on the Impending Trump Healthcare Disaster.
Kathleen Culliton of the Raw Story: "... Donald Trump praised a violent dead gangster and the wrong Republican at a campaign rally this weekend, spurring concerns of cognitive decline. Trump told North Carolina voters Sunday evening, just two days before the upcoming presidential election that could return him to the White House, that he thought Al Capone was 'lovely' and their senatorial candidate was a superior choice. 'You have one of the best of all right here, David McCormick,' Trump said. 'Great guy.'" But great guy McCormick is running for Senate in Pennsylvania, not North Carolina, and -- not surprisingly -- he was not at Trump's North Carolina rally. Moreover, there is no North Carolina Senate race this year.
Not Funny: Trump Says He's Okay with Assassins Shooting the Press. Michael Gold & Maggie Haberman of the New York Times: "... Donald J. Trump told supporters on Sunday [at a rally in Lititz, Pa.,] that he 'shouldn't have left' the White House at the end of his term during an end-of-campaign rally where he vented angrily about a spate of new public polls showing him losing ground to Vice President Kamala Harris and joked about reporters being shot at.... Mr. Trump's voice was audibly hoarse and his speech sluggish as he made unfounded claims about election interference.... The remark [that he shouldn't have left the white House in 2021] echoed what Mr. Trump told some aides within days of his 2020 election loss: that he wasn't going to leave the White House.... He spent nearly 20 minutes trying to instill doubts about the election, reviving a host of baseless claims of widespread fraud that he made in 2020.... Mr. Trump, while riffing, also pointed to the protective glass encasing him now at outdoor rallies since he survived the assassination attempt in Butler. 'To get to me, somebody would have to shoot through fake news, and I don't mind that much, 'cause, I don't mind. I don't mind,' he said, as some in the crowd laughed and howled." (Also linked yesterday.) The AP's report is here.
Alex Weprin of the Hollywood Reporter: "NBC is giving ... Donald Trump's campaign free commercial time in response to Vice President Kamala Harris' appearance on Saturday Night Live, including an unusual ad during Sunday's NASCAR coverage, a source familiar with the matter says. Harris appeared on Saturday's SNL for one minute and 30 seconds, meaning that if another presidential campaign requests it, NBC would need to give it about 90 seconds of time. On Sunday, NBC broadcast a NASCAR playoff race, but some viewers noticed toward the end of the broadcast (technically right after the race ended but while coverage was still ongoing) that Trump appeared in an unusual ad, speaking directly to camera ... and claiming that electing Harris would cause a 'depression' and that viewers should 'go and vote.'... Trump was given 60 additional seconds of campaign time during NBC's Sunday Night Football coverage. While the game was already over, the spot -- which was the same one that aired during the NASCAR coverage -- aired during the post-game coverage (and shortly after a paid campaign ad)."
S.V. Date of the Huffington Post: "In the final sprint toward Election Day, Donald Trump has mused about former congresswoman Liz Cheney as well as journalists covering his rallies getting gunned down, confirmed that he will put an anti-vax conspiracy theorist in charge of the government's health care apparatus and explained that talking about a fictional serial killer proves his genius. And that was all before he declared at a rally Sunday that he should have just stayed in office despite his 2020 election loss and failed coup attempt on Jan. 6, 2021."
Meryl Kornfield of the Washington Post: "... Donald Trump headlined a rally a week ago featuring a comedian's remark that Puerto Rico is an 'island of garbage.' On Thursday, Trump insisted he had previously won New Mexico, a state he lost twice by big margins. On Friday, he suggested a Republican adversary should have 'guns trained on her face.' And the following day, he unleashed a profane speech saying women have to be protected 'at home in suburbia.'... Trump's near-daily pattern of making provocative or inflammatory remarks threatens to undermine his campaign's message that a Trump presidency would restore an orderly, controlled leadership to the nation." MB: The notion that an elderly, confused person who has been a scatterbrained wild man his entire life "would restore an orderly, controlled leadership" is ludicrous, and it didn't take this week of his vicious, deranged remarks for normal people to suddenly arrive at that realization.
Peter Baker of the New York Times: "Public appearances by Mr. Trump throughout this year's campaign have been an Alice-in-Wonderland trip through the political looking glass, a journey into an alternate reality.... At its most fundamental, it boils down to this: America was paradise on earth when he was in charge, and now it's a dystopian hellscape.... And it is a version that has found traction with tens of millions of supporters.... Mr. Trump's four years in power were a nonstop treadmill for fact-checkers trying to catch up with the latest. His four years since leaving arguably have posed an even bigger challenge as he descended further into conspiracy theories.... But dishonesty is not necessarily punished politically in the way it once was." Baker runs through a brief history of Trump's biggest lies. (Also linked yesterday.)
Marie: I continue to worry that no one is paying attention to New Hampshire. I saw a poll (don't know if it was a reliable one) about a week ago showing Trump up by four points in New Hampshire. And now hear this: ~~~
~~~ Margie Cullen of the Portsmouth Herald: "... JD Vance bashed Vice President Kamala Harris and touted ... Donald Trump in a last-minute attempt to shore up support in New Hampshire just two days before the 2024 presidential election. Vance held the rally at the New England Sports Center in Derry on Sunday night.... Recent polls show Harris leading Trump in the Granite State, but by a shrinking margin. A University of New Hampshire Survey Center poll released Sunday found Harris ahead by 5 points, down from 9 points in the previous poll. A poll released Oct. 30 by Saint Anselm found the same results: up by five, a smaller margin than previous polls. Political analyst Scott Spradling told WMUR [Manchester] the Trump campaign might think that they can take the state, and Vance's rhetoric suggested the same."
Marie: I wonder if pervasive GOP misogyny has turned Republican women into masochists. Donald Trump has treated Nikki Haley with contempt not only when she ran against him but also in the past several months when she has prostrated herself before him. Now Haley has doubled down on abused-partner syndrome by writing a Wall Street Journal op-ed endorsing Trump's candidacy. (I can't access the op-ed, and I don't care, but it's here.)
Dan Diamond of the Washington Post: "First came GOP House Speaker Mike Johnson's pledge last Monday to overhaul the Affordable Care Act if Donald Trump wins the presidential election. Then Howard Lutnick, the co-chair of Trump's transition team, on Wednesday endorsed Robert F. Kennedy Jr's vaccine skepticism and suggested that a future Trump administration would empower Kennedy to help oversee vaccine data. Three days later, Kennedy announced that Trump would seek to remove fluoride from Americans' drinking water as a Day 1 priority. The statements add up to a surreal final week of campaigning for Republicans in which several of Trump's top surrogates are introducing unconventional -- and generally unpopular -- ideas that pit them against the health-policy establishment.... The assorted proposals also add up to an agenda that would probably damage public health."
Andrew Van Dam of the Washington Post explains how polls are conducted in an era when "nobody answers the phone": "We stopped answering unknown numbers as phone spammers proliferated, everybody got caller ID and 'huge swaths of the population' switched to text messaging as their preferred means of communication.... The most common public, national polls use online panels that recruit willing participants, often through ads, and then try to massage their demographics until they match the U.S. population.... Many top pollsters adopt a 'whatever works' approach. They pick thousands of American households, often by selecting random mailing addresses, then pull out all the stops to wring an answer from each via phone, mail, internet or -- in some cases -- in-person visits."
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Florida Boy. Meet Your Trump Backer. Wicker Perlis of Treasure Coast Palm: "... a teenager and apparent supporter of ... Donald Trump was arrested [in Stuart, Florida,] Saturday at a rally in support of Vice President Kamala Harris and charged with punching a 70-year-old woman in the stomach. A 17-year-old boy -- wearing a T-shirt featuring an image of Trump raising his middle finger in front of an American flag background -- punched the Harris supporter, knocking her off her feet, according to police and the woman, Stuart resident Kathleen Tomasko.... According to witnesses, Bossio said, the 17-year-old was walking away from a separate altercation with a male Harris supporter when he struck Tomasko and knocked her to the ground. Tomasko said she did nothing to provoke the 17-year-old and she did not hear him say anything to her. In fact, she didn't even see him coming, she said." MB: Okay, so not old enough to vote, but old enough to flatten a little old lady. You've done your part, Kid. You've got a great future.
Montana Senate Race. Liz Goodwin of the Washington Post: "Tim Sheehy, the Montana Republican nominee for Senate, said in an interview with former Fox News host Megyn Kelly that there are no medical records that would prove he did not accidentally shoot himself in the arm in Glacier National Park in 2015. Sheehy is facing a fresh round of scrutiny about a bullet wound in his arm, which he has told voters he sustained while serving as a Navy SEAL in Afghanistan in 2012. But in 2015, he told a park ranger he accidentally inflicted the wound upon himself when he dropped his weapon in a parking lot in Glacier National Park and it fired into his arm. Democrats have poured millions of dollars into negative ads that raise questions about the incident, which was first reported by The Washington Post, in the closing days of the crucial Senate race.... Sheehy now says he lied to the park ranger in 2015 after seeking emergency medical treatment for a fall in Glacier National Park that he thought dislodged the bullet."~~~
~~~ MB: If you read through the story, you'll see that Sheehy not only changed his story about his bullet wound, he also has changed the story about the availability of his medical records: "Sheehy's contention that records from his hospital visit do not exist is new." It's pretty obvious Sheehy is lying. Again. Of course the hospital made a record of his visit. Not only that, most states require hospitals to report bullet wounds to law enforcement, so there should be a second, separate law enforcement record of his treatment. Knowing that they will be voting for an unrepentant serial liar, Montanans are set to elect him to unseat Jon Tester (D).
Nevada Early Voting. Mark Robison of the Reno Gazette Journal: "After the final day of early voting, registered Republicans have cast almost 50,000 more votes than Democrats statewide, according to Secretary of State data released at 9 p.m. Friday.... In 2020, Joe Biden won Nevada over Donald Trump by fewer than 34,000 votes. The state has not given its electoral votes to a Republican candidate since George W. Bush in 2004."
New York City Council Race. Maia Coleman of the New York Times: "When Harvey Epstein went to sleep on Saturday night, he was a low-profile New York State assemblyman. When he woke up on Sunday morning, he was something of an internet celebrity. Mr. Epstein was the subject of a 'Saturday Night Live' sketch this weekend that spoofed his name -- a somewhat unfortunate mash-up of the names of two notorious sexual predators, Harvey Weinstein and Jeffrey Epstein. The show's host, the comedian John Mulaney, starred as Harvey Epstein in a campaign ad featuring the candidate struggling to explain to voters that he is neither of the disgraced men. Harvey Epstein is running for the New York City Council in District 2, which includes Greenwich Village, the Lower East Side and parts of southeastern Manhattan.... The real Harvey Epstein ... said in an interview on Sunday that he had no idea the sketch was planned.... In the wake of the publicity over the sketch, Harvey Epstein encouraged people to support survivors of sexual assault." ~~~
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Moldova. Andrew Higgins of the New York Times: "The pro-Western president of Moldova, Maia Sandu, won re-election on Sunday in a high-stakes runoff vote in the former Soviet republic against a rival candidate she had denounced as 'Moscow's man.'... With more than 98 percent of ballots counted, official results gave Ms. Sandu 54.9 percent of the vote, an unassailable lead on her Moscow-friendly rival, who had 45.3 percent. In a televised address early Monday, she thanked Moldovans living abroad, whose vote tipped the result in her favor, but said the election was a victory for the whole country. 'Today you saved Moldova,' she said. 'In our choice for a dignified future, no one lost.'"
News Lede
New York Times: "Quincy Jones, one of the most powerful forces in American popular music for more than half a century, died on Sunday in California. He was 91."