The Ledes

Friday, October 24, 2014.

Guardian: "European leaders have struck a broad climate change pact obliging the EU as a whole to cut greenhouse gases by at least 40% by 2030. But key aspects of the deal that will form a bargaining position for global climate talks in Paris next year were left vague or voluntary, raising questions as to how the aims would be realised."

New York Times: "American security officials said Thursday that they were looking into a new report that Islamic State militants had used chlorine gas as a weapon against Iraqi police officers last month near Balad, north of Baghdad."

The Wires

The Ledes

Thursday, October 23, 2014.

Los Angeles Times: "Islamic State still generates tens of millions of dollars a month in illicit income despite a U.S.-led effort to cut the financing streams that have helped turn the once-obscure militant group into a terrorist organization unlike any previously seen, a senior U.S. counter-terrorism official said Thursday."

Guardian: "The prime minister of Canada, Stephen Harper, vowed a tough and uncompromising response to a brazen gun attack on the national parliament on Wednesday that left a soldier dead and a nation in shock. As calm fell on Canada’s idyllic capital, where hours earlier Michael Zehaf-Bibeau had forced his way into the parliament building in a hail of gunfire before being killed by a ceremonial official, Harper delivered a sombre television address declaring that the country would not be cowed by terrorism." ...

... Toronto Globe & Mail: "Michael Zehaf-Bibeau, the slain 32-year-old suspected killer of a Canadian Forces soldier near Parliament Hill, was a labourer and small-time criminal – a man who had had a religious awakening and seemed to have become mentally unstable. Mr. Zehaf-Bibeau was born in 1982 and was the son of Bulgasem Zehaf, a Quebec businessman who appears to have fought in 2011 in Libya, and Susan Bibeau, the deputy chairperson of a division of Canada’s Immigration and Refugee Board. The two were divorced in 1999." ...

... New York Times: "A day after a terrorist attack convulsed the heart of Ottawa, the Canadian capital, the city’s police chief said he was satisfied that it was the work of a lone gunman, who shot dead a soldier before being killed in a hail of gunfire in the Parliament building.... In the hours following the raid, police officials had said that there might be as many as three armed men."

Public Service Announcement

Washington Post, September 17: "Artificial sweeteners might be triggering higher blood-sugar levels in some people and contributing to the problems they were designed to combat, such as diabetes and obesity, according to new findings published Wednesday in the journal Nature.

New York Times, September 1: "People who avoid carbohydrates and eat more fat, even saturated fat, lose more body fat and have fewer cardiovascular risks than people who follow the low-fat diet that health authorities have favored for decades, a major new study [financed by the N.I.H.] shows."

White House Live Video
October 23

12:30 pm ET: Vice President Biden speaks about an anti-domestic violence program in Duluth, Minnesota

12:45 pm ET: Josh Earnest's press briefing

If you don't see the livefeed here, go to WhiteHouse.gov/live.

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Washington Post: A "virtual autopsy" of King Tut suggests the boy king had "buck teeth, club foot and a pronounced overbite."

Stephen Colbert describes his workday:


No Surprise Here. Valerie Tarico of AlterNet, in Salon: "... online search traffic from behind closed doors in Jesusland suggests that the bad, nasty, sexual impulses righteous believers are trying so hard to shut down may be their own. And if Google search patterns mean anything, they’re not succeeding too well: studies consistently demonstrate that people in conservative religious states search for adult materials online far more often than people in blue states."

Jeffrey Frank reviews, for the New Yorker, a new biography of Nelson Rockefeller by Richard Norton Smith. The review is fairly entertaining & informative.

Michael Cieply of the New York Times: "... several of the companies behind 'Citizenfour' — which takes issue with Mr. Obama’s expansion of Bush-era surveillance, and his administration’s attempt to prosecute [Edward] Snowden for espionage — are led by some of the president’s close political allies. They include Harvey Weinstein, the Weinstein Company’s co-chairman, as well as Jeff Skoll, the founder of Participant Media, and Richard Plepler, the chief executive of HBO, who all have been major contributors to Mr. Obama’s political campaigns."

Washington Post: "President Obama's credit card was rejected last month at a restaurant in New York. 'I went to a restaurant up in New York when I was -- during the U.N. General Assembly, and my credit card was rejected,' Obama said Friday while signing an executive order to protect consumers from identity theft. 'It turned out I guess I don’t use it enough. They were -- they thought there was some fraud going on. Fortunately, Michelle had hers.'"

"Who's Gonna Stand Up & Save the Earth?" Not Stephen Colbert:

Novelist John Grisham recants his apologia for child porn. Good to know.

Unsolved Mystery. Washington Post: "Human remains recently exhumed from an Alabama grave are not those of the notorious fugitive William Bradford Bishop, who is accused of killing five family members with a small sledgehammer in Montgomery County in 1976 and setting their bodies on fire, law enforcement officials said Wednesday. The FBI said that DNA taken from the unidentified body in Scottsboro, Ala., on Oct. 9 did not match Bishop, who is a member of the Ten Most Wanted list." Original story further down this column. Thanks to Haley S. for the lead.

New York Times: "CBS announced a new subscription Internet streaming service on Thursday that allows people to watch its live television programming and thousands of its current and past shows on demand without paying for a traditional TV subscription. The new 'CBS All Access' service, costing $5.99 a month, is the first time that a traditional broadcaster will make a near-continuous live feed of its local stations available over the web to non-pay-TV subscribers. At its start, the live stream will be available in 14 markets in the United States." ...

... New York Times: "HBO announced Wednesday that it would start a stand-alone Internet streaming service in the United States in 2015 that would not require a subscription to a traditional television service, a move that intensifies the premium cable network’s growing rivalry with Netflix. Just hours after HBO unveiled plans for its new service, Netflix announced that its subscriber growth was slower than expected...."

Joe Coscarelli of New York: "Following its initial mercy killing at the hands of Jon Stewart, Crossfire was rebooted last year with Newt Gingrich and Van Jones to dismal returns..., CNN ... scrapped it for good today [October 15] so that Newt can spend more time with his animals — and hopefully run for president again."

Joe Concha of Mediaite: "A well-placed source tells me MSNBC will be announcing major programming changes sometime in the next month, including the cancellation of Ronan Farrow‘s afternoon program, Ronan Farrow Daily." CW: I've caught a few minutes of Farrow's show a couple of times, & it was clear the guy was in way over his head. His performance was as embarrassing as the Russert kid's, though he isn't an obnoxious bro in the Russert-kid mold. I'm not sure if the suits will ever figure out that legacies & children-of-famous-people are usually not the best & brightest, perhaps because a lot of the suits themselves are legacies.

Philip Shenon in Politico Magazine: "If even Robert Kennedy was a conspiracy theorist, it is hard to see how millions of other Americans will ever be convinced to accept that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone."

Bill Carter of the New York Times: "MSNBC has seen its ratings hit one of the deepest skids in its history, with the recently completed third quarter of 2014 generating some record lows."

Snowden, The Movie:

... AND, Snowden's girlfriend is living with him in a Moscow apartment. David Harding of the New York Daily News: "His girlfriend, Lindsay Mills, moved into his apartment in the Russian capital in July, a detail that was revealed in the new documentary, 'Citizenfour.'” ...

... George Packer of the New Yorker on Laura Poitras & making the film "Citizenfour." ...

... Steven Zeitchik of the Los Angeles Times discusses the film. He attended the premiere at the New York Film Festival, where the documentary got a rare standing O. CW: I'm kinda sensing that "Citizenfour" can best be described as "documentary as hagiography." And, yes, I'm definitely seeing an Oscar here. Call me an oracle.

 

 

A video for Marco I'm-Not-a-Scientist-Man Rubio & Bobby I'm-Not-an-Evolutionary-Biologist Jindal, & all their non-scientist Republican friends:

Selina Gray, on right, saved Arlington House treasures during the Civil War.Michael Ruane of the Washington Post: "When Robert E. Lee’s wife, Mary, fled Arlington House at the start of the Civil War, she gave her personal slave, Selina Norris Gray, the keys to the mansion and responsibility for the grand house the Lees had lived in for 30 years. Gray fulfilled her duties. She is famously credited with saving from marauding Union soldiers numerous heirlooms belonging to George Washington that were stored in the house. Now the National Park Service, which administers Arlington House, has acquired what it says is a rare and previously unknown photograph of Gray and, apparently, two of her eight children."

"An FBI wanted poster shows William Bradford Bishop Jr. The image on the left shows how Bishop would look now. (Getty)"Dan Morse of the Washington Post: "For nearly 40 years, the legend of Bethesda fugitive William Bradford Bishop Jr. carried an air of not just evil brutality but refined sophistication. This was a man suspected of killing his family with a small sledgehammer in 1976 and setting their corpses on fire. Then he vanished, taking with him fluency in five languages, the experience of a world traveler for the State Department, and a fondness for playing tennis, flying airplanes and drinking Scotch. There were alleged sightings: a public park in Stockholm, a restroom in Sorrento, Italy, a train station in Basel, Switzerland. Now, in a potentiality stunning development in the case — centered in a municipally owned cemetery in the northeastern corner of Alabama — remains that were exhumed Thursday may tell a different story. Bishop could be the heretofore unidentified man called John Doe, who was struck by a car while walking down a highway in 1981, a person who appeared to be homeless, who’d worn several layers of heavy, dirty clothes and weighed just 155 pounds." ...

... CW: If you like mysteries & enjoy reading about how they're unravelled, you should find this a compelling story.

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The Commentariat -- Sept. 21, 2012

CW: For some reason, Reality Chex is terribly slow this morning. If the lethargy continues, I'll complain about it.

** Paul Krugman: "... the modern Republican Party just doesn't have much respect for people who work for other people, no matter how faithfully and well they do their jobs.... Some of [this disdain for workers] reflects the influence of money in politics.... But it also reflects the extent to which the G.O.P. has been taken over by an Ayn Rand-type vision of society, in which a handful of heroic businessmen are responsible for all economic good, while the rest of us are just along for the ride." ...

... Conservative Michael Gerson of the Washington Post: "... a Republican ideology pitting the 'makers' against the 'takers' offers nothing. No sympathy for our fellow citizens. No insight into our social challenge. No hope of change. This approach involves a relentless reductionism. Human worth is reduced to economic production. Social problems are reduced to personal vices. Politics is reduced to class warfare on behalf of the upper class.... Republican politicians mouth libertarian nonsense, unable to even describe some of the largest challenges of our time."

Lyndsey Layton of the Washington Post: "In 3-1/2 years in office, President Obama has set in motion a broad overhaul of public education from kindergarten through high school, largely bypassing Congress and inducing states to adopt landmark changes that none of his predecessors attempted. He awarded billions of dollars in stimulus funding to states that agreed to promote charter schools, use student test scores to evaluate teachers and embrace other administration-backed policies. And he has effectively rewritten No Child Left Behind, the federal law passed by Congress and signed by President George W. Bush, by excusing states from its requirements if they adopt his measures.... There is little or no research showing that these measures lead to better-educated children or higher graduation rates. Unions and some parents contend that Obama's approach overemphasizes testing and crowds out the arts and other subjects." CW: I wish I thought these "reforms" were a good thing; they are mostly horrible Jeb Bush/Very Serious People-style initiatives.

Sabrina Tavernise of the New York Times: "For generations of Americans, it was a given that children would live longer than their parents. But there is now mounting evidence that this enduring trend has reversed itself for the country's least-educated whites, an increasingly troubled group whose life expectancy has fallen by four years since 1990."

Massimo Calabresi of Time: DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz destroys crazy right-wing conspiracy theories -- promulgated by prominent House members like Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) -- about AG Eric Holder & President Obama's supposed "Fast & Furious" schemes: "Horowitz shows definitively that the Arizona ATF agents and prosecutors in the U.S. Attorney's office there were responsible for the operation, not the White House or the Justice Department in Washington and that the primary source of the inaccurate testimony given to Congress was the U.S. Attorney for Arizona, Dennis Burke."CW: Burke is a Janet Napolitano acolyte.

Presidential Race

Jeff Zeleny & Jim Rutenberg of the New York Times: "There are seven days until early voting begins in Iowa, less than two weeks until the first debate and 46 days left in the race for Mitt Romney to change the dynamic of a campaign that by many indicators is tilting against him. That, advisers to President Obama acknowledge, is plenty of time. But the burden rests to a remarkable degree directly on Mr. Romney and his ability to restore confidence to his campaign, become a more nimble candidate and clearly explain to voters why he would be the better choice...."

Julie Pace & Kasie Hunt of the AP: "At the end of August, President Barack Obama had about $88.8 million to spend on the final months of the campaign, nearly twice as much as Republican rival Mitt Romney, according to campaign fundraising reports released Thursday. While Romney's report showed he had $50.4 million to spend as of Aug. 31, he also owed $15 million on a $20 million loan taken that month."

New York Times Editors: the presidential candidates faced Latino voters in forums sponsored by Univision this week & neither came off with flying colors, but Romney -- whose policies are draconian -- wouldn't answer the questions about undocumented workers. ...

... Lawrence Downes, who is on the Times' Editorial Board, is more blunt: "Mitt Romney has a miraculous secret plan to fix immigration for good.... Mr. Romney won't tell us what it is.... If you're not going to give 11 million people a way to legalize, which Mr. Romney has never said he would do, and you're not going to deport them, but you support Arizona-style laws that try to make sure immigrants cannot work, drive, go to school or otherwise survive, then what?" ...

... Reid Epstein of Politico reports on President Obama's turn at the forum. ...

... Jordan Fabian of ABC News reported on Romney's appearance. ...

... Guilardo Romnio. Well, okay, Fabian didn't mention Romney's actual appearance. Hilariously, Romney seems to have calculated that he could win Latino votes if he just went all brownface. So, the man who told fatcats he could win if he'd only been of Mexican heritage, went all-Indio for his Univision appearance. This takes pandering to a whole new, incredibly jamón-fisted level.

 

 

Oh, you were born with a silver spoon,' you know, 'You never had to earn anything,' and so forth. And, and frankly, I was born with a silver spoon, which is the greatest gift you could have, which is to get born in America. I'll tell ya, there is -- 95 percent of life is set up for you if you're born in this country. -- Mitt Romney, in the Romney Tapes ...

** "You Didn't Build That." Ryan Grim & Arthur Delaney of the Huffington Post: "If Romney believes, as he said, that '95 percent of life is set up for you if you're born in this country,' then people who fail to become successful have only themselves to blame, which helps explain why Romney feels he'll never be able to redeem such people.... In crediting 95 percent of an American's success to the country in which he or she was born, Mitt Romney was saying that something else was responsible for that success. In other words, if you've got a business,you didn't build that."

Joe Conason of National Memo makes a compelling case that a book, titled A Nation of Moochers, by right-wing Wisconsin radio host Charles Sykes was the source of Romney's 47-percent meme: "... Sykes seamlessly melds two very distinct groups -- those who receive some kind of benefit or assistance from government, and those who pay no federal income tax -- precisely as Romney did, quite wrongly." To wit, in a passage near the beginning of his book -- the jacket includes a blurb from Paul Ryan -- Sykes writes:

Even as more people become dependent on government, fewer were paying their share of the tab. By tax day in 2010, nearly half of U.S. households paid no federal income taxes. After years of cuts, credits, and outright rebates, 47 percent of households had no net liability at all.

Devin Dwyer of ABC News: "The 14-year-old audio clip circulated by the Mitt Romney campaign this week to attack Barack Obama as favoring 'redistribution' of wealth was 'deceptively edited,' Democrats say, leaving out important context that Obama provided in his next breath."

Look Who Agrees: Glenn Kessler: Romney, Ryan & their campaign have taken 14-year-old remarks by then-state senator Obama "completely out of context" in a dishonest attempt to show "Obama's apparently socialist tendencies."

Even Chuck Todd of NBC debunks Romney. Via Charles Pierce:

Hitler finds out about the secret Romney tapes. In case you don't know who Jennifer Rubin is -- maybe because I never link any of her posts -- she's a winger blogger for the Washington Post, and yes, she sees the silver lining in every Romney blunder. Via Driftglass:

... After All the Sturm und Drang. Steve Kornacki of Salon: "According to a survey conducted by the Vanderbilt/YouGov Ad Rating Project, the video is enraging many Democrats and rallying some Republicans around Romney, but having essentially no impact on actual swing voters.... One reason why some swing voters might have liked the message of the video: 80 percent of respondents are under the impression that they pay federal income taxes. Many of them are surely mistaken, but if they don't know Romney was talking about them, they're not as likely to be offended." CW: this last bit -- that people think they pay income tax even when they don't -- is a point I've been making, so I'm glad it's now been documented.

When you think about our founding fathers..., blah blah, particularly since the '60s, that somehow or another there's this steel wall, this iron curtain or whatever you want to call it between the church and people of faith and this separation of church and state is just false on its face. [it is not the fault of the ellipsis that this sentence does not making sense] ... blah blah. President Obama and his cronies are making efforts to remove any trace of religion from American life.... blah blah. Satan runs across the world.... blah blah. The American family is under seize. [not a typo] -- Gov. Rick Perry (R-Texas), in a conference call with extremist pastor Rick Scarborough as part of his "40 Days to Save America" campaign to motivate and organize Religious Right voters

If only Rick Perry had won the nomination, we could have had that substantive "exchange of ideas." -- Constant Weader

Congressional Races

Josh Kraushaar of the National Journal: "... even as the overall picture holds many possibilities, this week demonstrated how the seeds are in place for Democrats not only to hold the Senate but also to prevent any losses at all. That would be a remarkable turnaround for a party that looked resigned to losing seats, and a stinging setback for National Republican Senatorial Committee Chairman John Cornyn, who set 2012 as the year when Republicans would ascend back into power." ...

... Adam Sorensen of Time: Boston Mayor Tom "Menino's endorsement [of Elizabeth Warren] is expected to come Friday..., and it's just the latest in a series of auspicious signs for Warren and Democratic Senate candidates like her. As volatile polling clouds the state of the presidential race and pundits diagnose the Romney campaign&'s alleged ills, it's actually the GOP's effort to take the Senate, not the White House, that's in grave condition.... A juiced conservative base may (or may not) help Romney nationally, but ideological warfare appears to be damaging Republican prospects down ballot." ...

Glen Johnson of the Boston Globe: "Senator Scott Brown and Democratic challenger Elizabeth Warren finally squared off face-to-face in a debate on Thursday night, and when they did, neither backed down from the criticisms they have lodged against each other from a distance on the campaign trail." ...

... Katharine Seeyle has a more extensive report in the New York Times. ...

... Michael Tomasky of Newsweek gives Brown a narrow win in the debate: "I'd bet she won 80-20 among independent women, and he won 80-20 among independent men. It was that stark." CW: hmm, since there are more women voters than men, sounds more like a win for Warren. ...

... E. J. Dionne: "My hunch is that whatever points [Brown] scored off Warren were more than wiped away by a tone that Rep. Barney Frank, a Warren supporter, accurately described on Rachel Maddow's show as 'snarky.' In his effort to derail Warren in a debate, Brown may have undermined one of the most important aspects of his get-along-with-everybody brand." ...

Laura Vozella of the Washington Post: "Republicans attacked Timothy M. Kaine on Thursday after he said during a much-anticipated Senate debate that he would consider a minimum income tax for every American, opening a fresh line of attack in a nationally watched race that until now has turned on mostly predictable and well-worn accusations. Kaine, a Democrat, made the comment as he squared off against Republican George Allen, a fellow former governor and his opponent in the Virginia race, in their first televised debate. The hour-long program ... was mostly devoid of fireworks.... Several times during the debate, [Kane] laid out his specific plan for fixing the nation's fiscal woes -- one that did not involve such a tax." ...

... Dave Weigel of Slate: "Kaine's been programmed to never rule out anything bipartisan. He gives his dumb answer. I don't think the dumb answer appreciates how cynical you need to be to win elections in 2012. Look: The House and Senate passed mandatory defense and discretionary spending cuts because Republicans demanded them in exchange for a debt limit hike. A year later, the existence of these cuts are being used against Democrats."

Re: commentary by contributor JJG:. More about the painting in this difficult-to-read pdf from the St. Louis Art Museum, which holds many of Bingham's works:

"The County Election," by George Caleb Bingham, 1852.

News Ledes

New York Times: "Representative Maxine Waters, Democrat of California, did not violate House ethics rules when she contacted the Treasury Department in 2008 to set up a meeting on behalf of top executives from a bank her husband owns stock in, a special investigator announced on Friday. But the House ethics committee is still debating whether her chief of staff, Mikael Moore, acted improperly when he continued to work behind the scenes on behalf of the same bank, OneUnited, which is based in Boston."

Huffington Post: "President Barack Obama revived a 2008 campaign promise on Friday, telling the crowd at an AARP forum that he would be open to raising the level of income on which Americans pay Social Security taxes."

ABC News: "The last of the 33,000 American surge troops sent to Afghanistan two years ago have left the battlefields of Afghanistan, Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta said. With the departure of the last of the surge troops, there are now 68,000 American troops in Afghanistan."

Washington Post: "Thousands of Pakistanis staged violent protests Friday morning against a YouTube video that insults Islam's prophet, burning down two movie houses in Peshawar and torching a tollbooth and cars on major highways near Islamabad and nearby Rawalpindi, authorities and local television channels reported."

Reuters: "The dispute between China and Japan over a desolate jumble of rocky islets in the East China Sea has taken a familiar turn with Beijing deploying a fleet of paramilitary patrol ships while similar Japanese vessels steam out in response. As in earlier disputes over rocks and shoals in the South China Sea, Beijing is relying on these vessels rather than more menacing warships to assert its sovereignty over the disputed islands known as Diaoyu in China and Senkaku in Japan."

AP: "In what promises to be a crowd-rousing air show, Endeavour, strapped atop a 747 jumbo jet, will take off after sunrise from Edwards Air Force Base in the Mojave Desert and dip low over various landmarks in a 4 1/2-hour sightseeing flight before landing at the Los Angeles International Airport. It's Endeavour's last aerial hurrah before it spends its retirement years as a museum piece."

AP: "In a now familiar global ritual, Apple< fans jammed shops from Sydney to Paris to pick up the tech juggernaut's latest iPhone. Eager buyers formed long lines Friday at Apple Inc. stores in Asia, Europe and North America to be the first to get their hands on the latest version of the smartphone."

Reader Comments (13)

If I were a professor of philosophy and logic, and Mittens was one of my students, I would suggest that he either pay attention, stop jerking off, and do the reading, or drop out and support his addiction to "Right Wing Comics: Rich Conservative Superheroes to the Rescue!!"

Today, in Marie's home state (how do you stand it?), the Rat made this entirely nonsensical, to the point of knee-slapping guffawing, statement: "Obama has said that Washington cannot be fixed from the inside. And he's right! So put me on the inside and I'll fix it."

Say what?

Then he goes on to rip Washington lifers, suggesting that only an outsider can fix what's broken.

That's why he has, for decades--wait, let me say that again--DECADES, been trying to buy into that insiders' club. And that is, I guess, why he has drafted a lifelong Washington insider who has never drawn a check in his adult life that wasn't government issued, as his bosom buddy in the effort to Fix Things.

I'm not sure if this is pure stupidity, mendacity, manipulation, or retardation. But it sure as shit ain't the truth.

Swine.

P.S. Nice to see that Jennifer Rubin has a fan in Hitler. He digs her shit in a big way. And I do mean shit.

September 20, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterAkhilleus

True the Vote and its offshoots are engaged in a concerted effort to throw roadblocks up to people voting. The local branch - "the Voter Integrity Project" (ha!) - in the swing state of North Carolina is actively trying to eject 30,000 voters off the rolls for bogus reasons. The state has never had a challenge of this magnitude. The process has usurped a lot of time and resources from the elections board, which should be spending its time on making the electoral process go more smoothly, to maximize the numbers who can vote.
You have to wonder if this is an intentional effort to Screw the Vote, which would make the perpetrators voting vigilantes.

September 20, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterVictoria D.

My response to David Brooks probably won't be printed in the NYT:

As someone who actually started a business twelve years ago and grew thousands of jobs during the Obama administration (whose SBA---in contrast to Bush's--- was really business-friendly), I would like to take violent exception to David's smug inane remarks. We don't need ridiculously favorable tax rates or special coddling. What we really do need are a well-educated work force (supported by tax dollars), a decent infrastructure of roads and bridges and airports (paid for by tax dollars), thoughtful and fairly enforced regulations (promulgated and enforced by a respected government), and most of all freedom from the inane private health insurance racket so that we and our workers can have the peace of mind that we won't be bankrupted by sickness or injury.

September 21, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterCalyban

"According to a survey conducted by the Vanderbilt/YouGov Ad Rating Project, the video is enraging many Democrats and rallying some Republicans around Romney, but having essentially no impact on actual swing voters.... "

I guess this proves that Romney's approach of saying anything without regard to whether it is true or not is absolutely correct: in America in 2012, it just doesn't matter what you say as a Presidential candidate. The people who will decide the election just don't care about the truthfulness of the candidates or whether they make sense. They seem to make up their minds on whether the candidate "seems" likable or "Presidential" or "not too angry" or whatever. Pathetic.

September 21, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterCalyban

@Victoria D. & @Calyban: your comments converge. Screw the Vote (apt re-branding!) & "rallying around Romney" for dissing half of us are of the same order. "Winning at all costs" means lying & disenfranchising. It means not just trashing those who disagree with you, the way Romney did, but also making sure "those people" can't vote their economic & social interests.

I wish that Screw the Vote gang, most of whom are probably in the 47 percent whether they know it or not, had some idea that they were working their selfish little hearts out to empower people who despise them and will ruin them.

I think you can liken politics to war & diplomacy. Diplomats try to solve conflicting interests through persuasion & negotiations -- just as, ideally, politicians try to present their own visions of governance in a persuasive way. War is hell. It's all about winning, at almost any cost -- including the massive loss of life (the U.S.'s bloodiest day occurred 150 years ago at Antietam). And that is what politics is in this country. Metaphorically speaking, would-be Democratic voters are cannon fodder. Too bad millions of Screw the Vote/Tea Party types are collateral damage.

Marie

September 21, 2012 | Registered CommenterThe Constant Weader

Re: Nothin' of import; Calyban; I never add to or respond to your comments because you say what you say without much leeway. Todays comment was my idea of how REAL Americans would think.
Note the 'REAL'; it's important to all of us to not fall for the idea that progressives are alien thinkers. I believe the wingers are doing their best to portray themselves as the holders of the American Ideal and the rest of us as impostors.
Second: I walked a Civil War battlefield in Virgina once; words don't work.
Third: I came across George Caleb Bingham's "The County Election" painted in 1852. Human nature doesn't change, all of todays voting problems are depicted.

September 21, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterJJG

Watching the Warren/Brown debate last night produced in my mister and me some belly laughs, eye rolling and "Did you understand what he just said?" more than once after Scott finished a hard to follow no-makie-sense diatribe. It was like watching the cute, not too bright, high school football hero take on the smartest girl in the class. There are some that are good at debating––Scott Brown is not good at debating; Warren, given this was her first, shows potential and skill at hammering home her central message.

Marie: I agree with you most empathically about the education reforms Obama has put in place. Arnie Duncan and Obama should have stuck to just playing basketball together and let those that actually know about education reform our stinky system.

September 21, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterPD Pepe

Here is Kaine's response to his comments: http://www.kaineforva.com/blog/why_dave_weigel_got_it_wrong_on_todays_debate

September 21, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterLisa

I watched the Warren-Brown debate on my laptop yesterday (from CA). I think he was peevish to begin with as Harry Reid exposed Brown's attempt to avoid the debate in front of God and everybody on the Senate floor, then sent him packing for the airport.

Brown is a fool. I sincerely hope that Warren's campaign spends some time working with her to take advantage of the the spaces Brown left that she could drive a semi through. My jaw drop moment was when he gestured at her and said something to the effect that "you can see she's not "Native American". No rejoinder from Warren and it was a perfect moment for some righteous snark. Many many things come to mind - headdress in cleaners, didn't want to intimidate you with my warpaint, Sen Brown has 20/20 ethnic vision.... Warren did well with his voting record to which his only and repeated response was "she's lying".

September 21, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterDiane

I recently scanned a journal article concerned with lying in the public sector. The author went through the usual litany of examples of big lies and small lies (without weighing in on that very fun new category: Romney Lies).

The conclusion, which none will find overly surprising, is that, especially in political forums, candidates, their surrogates, and supporters, who feel their cause is just will lie more readily. I guess that covers most everyone. But the article goes on to state that the liars in those instances don’t often feel that what they’re doing is lying (which might be one reason the Rat and the Fraud can look at themselves in a mirror without cringing).

That brings us around to something that has been touched on this morning out here, at least tangentially, and something I’ve been thinking about the past few days.

Marie raises the distinction between diplomacy and war; a good one. Now consider another point she’s been making, along with a number of observers about the lack of political and social self-awareness regarding, among others, many of the Steal the Vote teabaggers, none of whom, I will bet my house, believes they wallow among Romney’s despised 47%. Okay, hold that thought. Add to those thoughts something Santorum recently said about how wingers will never be supported by smart people.

Now go back to that thought about lying. You see, if you buy the article's premise that everyone lies at some time or other, then you have to consider what they're lying about and for. My rather partisan take is that even when Democrats lie (most times) they are shooting for some goal that is based in the real world. It's impossible to say that about most Republican lies. (In other words, lying to bring the nation into some fantasy bubble is beyond perverse. It's fucking dangerous).

So Whaddaya got?

First, we have a vast number of followers (and believe me, they ARE followers) of a major political party who view politics as war; a zero sum game. They already see themselves as victims. They don’t see themselves as “smart people” but instead comfort themselves with being the only “REAL” Americans. Their worldview suffers from an alarming lack of basic information and so they can be easily led to vote against their interests and to view those who would prefer political persuasion and comity over bare knuckle boxing and RPG attacks as somehow un-American and worthy only of their hatred. Lying doesn’t bother them because they feel god is on their side. Romney’s lies don’t bother them for the same reason, if they are even able to perceive them as lies.

So nonsensical policy statements and philosophical chicanery are cheered wildly.

We’ve seen the result of such ignorance, mendacity, and self delusion over the last 20 years, and especially over the last 3 ½ years.

The takeaway is pretty basic. Intellectual shallowness, duplicity, and chimerical politics guarantee that serious domestic and international problems will never be treated with anything other than ideological claptrap and nonsensical bluster. A one way ticket to the wingnut fantasy bubble.

But that’s exactly what makes the Republican Party run today.
The entire goal is a whacko combination of turning the country into a one party theocracy ruled by wealthy, isolated Romneybot oligarchs. They’re not all that far away from their goals. Anyone who thinks differently hasn’t been paying attention. As Kate and PD and others have been saying: remember the Supremes. We are one Justice away from no justice.

The knives come out this fall.

One final word about war vs. diplomacy: Republicans have always been ready to go to war in an election. Democrats have typically been much more politic, more diplomatic. To their dismay. This year, for the first time since I can recall, Democrats have been hitting, and hitting back hard. And Republicans don’t like it.

Romney and Ryan cry foul and whine like babies. I guess there’s no getting around it. As JJG says, and as you can read in many pages of De Tocqueville, American political elections haven’t changed much over the last 200 years.

Except now one of the two parties has completely lost its fucking mind. Support from smart people? They can’t even attract the support of half-smart people. They rely on raving imbeciles being led by shadowy ringmasters who traffic in damaging metaphors and furious hatred.

As Jim Morrison would say, no one here gets out alive.

September 21, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterAkhilleus

Marie,
I know you mentioned going to the U.of Wis. I don't know if you get the Alumni magazine. The cover story of the latest issue is about a study carried on since the early 90's examining psychopathic thinking and its' relationship to behavior. It was carried on at Mendota State Hospital and Wis. State prisons at Fox Lake & Oshkosh. Brain activity of the subjects was monitored electronically.
The findings of the study indicate goal orientation in the brain so strong that it blocks attempts at inhibition from other parts of the brain to the extent these people commit murder and other types of mayhem. However, to some extent this is learned behavior and can be reversed.
Akhilleus description of Republican behavior is the exact definition of psychopathology.
One has to wonder if at this stage of the game, given The Rats continued floundering in public, continuing to piss their million$ down a Rat hole is such a smart thing to do. Do they want to be bailing out another millionaire's $20 million loan for an ego trip? Just wondering.

September 21, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterRoger Henry

Re: memo to makeup dept. As a cardholder for over twenty years this retired IA stagehand (yea, I have had two job careers, how else do you make it in this worker's paradise? Stage carpenter, rigger, union job steward and yes, truck loader. Carpenter by day; stagehand at night. No wonder I'm tired; coming and going, and going and coming;...jez, I go on) anyways, if you are going to go brown; you have got to do the hands too. Mitt; shoulda' been wearing gloves! Oh, fuck it, Why not say your grandfather had many Mexican wives and you have a little Aztec in your face.

September 21, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterJJG

JJG. Say what? His grandfather had a non-caucasian wife? A mormon with a colored wife? You're shitting me.

September 21, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterJames Singer
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