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Marie: Sorry, my countdown clock was unreliable; then it became completely unreliable. I can't keep up with it. Maybe I'll try another one later.

 

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Zoë Schlanger in the Atlantic: "Throw out your black plastic spatula. In a world of plastic consumer goods, avoiding the material entirely requires the fervor of a religious conversion. But getting rid of black plastic kitchen utensils is a low-stakes move, and worth it. Cooking with any plastic is a dubious enterprise, because heat encourages potentially harmful plastic compounds to migrate out of the polymers and potentially into the food. But, as Andrew Turner, a biochemist at the University of Plymouth recently told me, black plastic is particularly crucial to avoid." This is a gift link from laura h.

Mashable: "Following the 2024 presidential election results and [Elon] Musk's support for ... Donald Trump, users have been deactivating en masse. And this time, it appears most everyone has settled on one particular X alternative: Bluesky.... Bluesky has gained more than 100,000 new sign ups per day since the U.S. election on Nov. 5. It now has over 15 million users. It's enjoyed a prolonged stay on the very top of Apple's App Store charts as well. Ready to join? Here's how to get started on Bluesky[.]"

Washington Post: "Americans can again order free rapid coronavirus tests by mail, the Biden administration announced Thursday. People can request four free at-home tests per household through covidtests.gov. They will begin shipping Monday. The move comes ahead of an expected winter wave of coronavirus cases. The September revival of the free testing program is in line with the Biden administration’s strategy to respond to the coronavirus as part of a broader public health campaign to protect Americans from respiratory viruses, including influenza and respiratory syncytial virus (RSV), that surge every fall and winter. But free tests were not mailed during the summer wave, which wastewater surveillance data shows is now receding."

NPR lists all of the 2025 Pulitzer Prize winners. Poynter lists the prizes awarded in journalism as well as the finalists in these categories.

Wherein Michael McIntyre explains how Americans adapted English to their needs. With examples:

Beat the Buzzer. Some amazing young athletes:

     ~~~ Here's the WashPo story (March 23).

Back when the Washington Post had an owner/publisher who dared to stand up to a president:

Prime video is carrying the documentary. If you watch it, I suggest watching the Spielberg film "The Post" afterwards. There is currently a free copy (type "the post full movie" in the YouTube search box) on YouTube (or you can rent it on YouTube, on Prime & [I think] on Hulu). Near the end, Daniel Ellsberg (played by Matthew Rhys), says "I was struck in fact by the way President Johnson's reaction to these revelations was [that they were] 'close to treason,' because it reflected to me the sense that what was damaging to the reputation of a particular administration or a particular individual was in itself treason, which is very close to saying, 'I am the state.'" Sound familiar?

Out with the Black. In with the White. New York Times: “Lester Holt, the veteran NBC newscaster and anchor of the 'NBC Nightly News' over the last decade, announced on Monday that he will step down from the flagship evening newscast in the coming months. Mr. Holt told colleagues that he would remain at NBC, expanding his duties at 'Dateline,' where he serves as the show’s anchor.... He said that he would continue anchoring the evening news until 'the start of summer.' The network did not immediately name a successor.” ~~~

~~~ New York Times: “MSNBC said on Monday that Jen Psaki, the former White House press secretary who has become one of the most prominent hosts at the network, would anchor a nightly weekday show in prime time. Ms. Psaki, 46, will host a show at 9 p.m. Tuesday through Friday, replacing Alex Wagner, a longtime political journalist who has anchored that hour since 2022, according to a memo to staff from Rebecca Kutler, MSNBC’s president. Ms. Wagner will remain at MSNBC as an on-air correspondent. Rachel Maddow, MSNBC’s biggest star, has been anchoring the 9 p.m. hour on weeknights for the early days of ... [Donald] Trump’s administration but will return to hosting one night a week at the end of April.”

 

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Saturday
May072011

Bullets to the Brain

As the details of the raid on the bin Laden compound come more into focus, it appears that it would have been possible to take Osama bin Laden alive, possibly without compromising the safety of the Navy SEALs who conducted the operation. Both Glen Greenwald and Michael Moore question the President's decision to kill, rather than capture, Osama bin Laden. I'm sure others have expressed similar views.

Here's Greenwald on "The Osama bin Laden Exception," which is, roughly:

yes, I believe in all these principles of due process and restraining unfettered Executive killing and the like, but in this one case, I don't care if those are violated.

... Greenwald goes on to say,

I strongly disagree with that view, I understand and respect it, particularly given the honesty with which it's expressed. My principal objection to it -- aside from the fact that I think those principles shouldn't be violated because they're inherently right (which is what makes them principles) -- is that there's no principled way to confine it to bin Laden.

(Greenwald's case is bolstered, as he points out today with his I-told-you-so post, by the U.S. drone attack which attempted, apparently unsuccessfully, to kill Anwar al-Awlaki, the radical American-born cleric believed to be hiding in Yemen.)

Here's part of a brief post, titled "Why We Put Those Like Bin Laden on Trial" by Moore:

We put those who do evil things on trial not so much for them (though we do do it for them because, unlike their view of us, we see them as human), but we do it for ourselves. We do it because we are civilized, we are a free people, we believe that everyone has a right to their day in court, even the worst persons. We believe in the rule of law even if they don't. That makes us strong, stronger than them, and we will defeat their evil through our open and just society.

Leaving aside the al-Awlaki case, which I see as a separate issue that wants airing, there is something essential in the killing of Osama bin Laden that makes it different from the disposition of other terrorists. Both Greenwald & Moore ignore the "what if." The "what-if" is "what if we had captured bin Laden? Then what?"

There is little doubt that the capture, imprisonment, trial and likely execution of bin Laden, all of which would have played out over the course of years, or possibly a decade, would have increased the threat of terrorism against Americans here and elsewhere. Al Qaeda operatives reportedly have already threatened to avenge bin Laden's death. Were he held prisoner in the U.S. or elsewhere, there would certainly have been attempts to retaliate or even to rescue him. Although his killing has put the U.S and its allies on heightened alert, his capture would have kept us in that mode for years. Bin Laden was more than the titular leader of a terrorist cell. For his adherents, he was the prime symbol of their cause.

Osama bin Laden, alive, posed a clear and present threat to national security. As Commander in Chief of the armed services, the President of the United States is primarily reponsible for ensuring the security of the nation. Given that charter, it seems easy to argue that in the interest of national security, killing -- rather than capturing bin Laden -- was essential to national security.

While I respect the views of Greenwald, Moore and others who disagree with me, I don't think the President erred in his apparent determination to kill Osama bin Laden. I oppose assassination and the death penalty. But I am also a realist. The life of one avowed terrorist is not worth more than the life of one of the thousands of innocents he has already killed, and it is not worth more than the lives of those who almost surely would die in the years of retaliatory acts of terror which would surely have followed his capture. President Obama ordered the killing of Osama bin Laden to protect the nation from future acts of terror.