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Monday, June 30, 2025

It's summer in our hemisphere, and people across Guns America have nothing to do but shoot other people.

New York Times: “A gunman deliberately started a wildfire in a rugged mountain area of Idaho and then shot at the firefighters who responded, killing two and injuring another on Sunday afternoon in what the local sheriff described as a 'total ambush.' Law enforcement officers exchanged fire with the gunman while the wildfire burned, and officials later found the body of the male suspect on the mountain with a firearm nearby, Sheriff Robert Norris of Kootenai County said at a news conference on Sunday night. The authorities said they believed the suspect had acted alone but did not release any information about his identity or motives.” A KHQ-TV (Spokane) report is here.

New York Times: “The New York City police were investigating a shooting in Manhattan on Sunday night that left two people injured steps from the Stonewall Inn, an icon of the L.G.B.T.Q. rights movement. The shooting occurred outside a nearby building in Greenwich Village at 10:15 p.m., Sgt. Matthew Forsythe of the New York Police Department said. The New York City Pride March had been held in Manhattan earlier on Sunday, and Mayor Eric Adams said on social media that the shooting happened as Pride celebrations were ending. One victim who was shot in the head was in critical condition on Monday morning, a spokeswoman for the Police Department said. A second victim was in stable condition after being shot in the leg, she said. No suspect had been identified. The police said it was unclear if the shooting was connected to the Pride march.”

New York Times: “A dangerous heat wave is gripping large swaths of Europe, driving temperatures far above seasonal norms and prompting widespread health and fire alerts. The extreme heat is forecast to persist into next week, with minimal relief expected overnight. France, Spain, Portugal, Italy and Greece are among the nations experiencing the most severe conditions, as meteorologists warn that Europe can expect more and hotter heat waves in the future because of climate change.”

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Commencement ceremonies are joyous occasions, and Steve Carell made sure that was true this past weekend (mid-June) at Northwestern's commencement:

~~~ Carell's entire commencement speech was hilarious. The audio and video here isn't great, but I laughed till I cried.

CNN did a live telecast Saturday night (June 7) of the Broadway play "Good Night, and Good Luck," written by George Clooney and Grant Heslov, about legendary newsman Edward R. Murrow's effort to hold to account Sen. Joe McCarthy, "the junior senator from Wisconsin." Clooney plays Murrow. Here's Murrow himself with his famous take on McCarthy & McCarthyism, brief remarks that especially resonate today: ~~~

     ~~~ This article lists ways you still can watch the play. 

New York Times: “The New York Times Company has agreed to license its editorial content to Amazon for use in the tech giant’s artificial intelligence platforms, the company said on Thursday. The multiyear agreement 'will bring Times editorial content to a variety of Amazon customer experiences,' the news organization said in a statement. Besides news articles, the agreement encompasses material from NYT Cooking, The Times’s food and recipe site, and The Athletic, which focuses on sports. This is The Times’s first licensing arrangement with a focus on generative A.I. technology. In 2023, The Times sued OpenAI and its partner, Microsoft, for copyright infringement, accusing the tech companies of using millions of articles published by The Times to train automated chatbots without any kind of compensation. OpenAI and Microsoft have rejected those accusations.” ~~~

     ~~~ Marie: I have no idea what this means for "the Amazon customer experience." Does it mean that if I don't have a NYT subscription but do have Amazon Prime I can read NYT content? And where, exactly, would I find that content? I don't know. I don't know.

Washington Post reporters asked three AI image generators what a beautiful woman looks like. "The Post found that they steer users toward a startlingly narrow vision of attractiveness. Prompted to show a 'beautiful woman,' all three tools generated thin women, without exception.... Her body looks like Barbie — slim hips, impossible waist, round breasts.... Just 2 percent of the images showed visible signs of aging. More than a third of the images had medium skin tones. But only nine percent had dark skin tones. Asked to show 'normal women,' the tools produced images that remained overwhelmingly thin.... However bias originates, The Post’s analysis found that popular image tools struggle to render realistic images of women outside the Western ideal." ~~~

     ~~~ Marie: The reporters seem to think they are calling out the AI programs for being unrealistic. But there's a lot about the "beautiful women" images they miss. I find these omissions remarkably sexist. For one thing, the reporters seem to think AI is a magical "thing" that self-generates. It isn't. It's programmed. It's programmed by boys, many of them incels who have little or no experience or insights beyond comic books and Internet porn of how to gauge female "beauty." As a result, the AI-generated women look like cartoons; that is, a lot like an air-brushed photo of Kristi Noem: globs of every kind of dark eye makeup, Scandinavian nose, Botox lips, slathered-on skin concealer/toner/etc. makeup, long dark hair and the aforementioned impossible Barbie body shape, including huge, round plastic breasts. 

New York Times: “George Clooney’s Broadway debut, 'Good Night, and Good Luck,' has been one of the sensations of the 2024-25 theater season, breaking box office records and drawing packed houses of audiences eager to see the popular movie star in a timely drama about the importance of an independent press. Now the play will become much more widely available: CNN is planning a live broadcast of the penultimate performance, on June 7 at 7 p.m. Eastern. The performance will be preceded and followed by coverage of, and discussion about, the show and the state of journalism.”

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~~~ New York Times: “Bought for $27.50 after World War II, the faint, water stained manuscript in the library of Harvard Law School had attracted relatively little attention since it arrived there in 1946. That is about to change. Two British academics, one of whom happened on the manuscript by chance, have discovered that it is an original 1300 version — not a copy, as long thought — of Magna Carta, the medieval document that helped establish some of the world’s most cherished liberties. It is one of just seven such documents from that date still in existence.... A 710-year-old version of Magna Carta was sold in 2007 for $21.3 million.... First issued in 1215, it put into writing a set of concessions won by rebellious barons from a recalcitrant King John of England — or Bad King John, as he became known in folklore. He later revoked the charter, but his son, Henry III, issued amended versions, the last one in 1225, and Henry’s son, Edward I, in turn confirmed the 1225 version in 1297 and again in 1300.”

NPR lists all of the 2025 Pulitzer Prize winners. Poynter lists the prizes awarded in journalism as well as the finalists in these categories.

 

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Sunday
Oct092011

The Killing of Anwar al-Awlaki

I've posted a comments page on Off Times Square on the Killing of Anwar al-Awlaki.

A reader wrote today to ask my opinion on the Administration's legal justification for the targeting & killing of Anwar al-Awlaki, an American citizen. Charlie Savage of the New York Times reported yesterday on "a secret legal memorandum" that concluded the killing of Awlaki would "be lawful if it were not feasible to take him alive." I linked the story yesterday; it's here. Here is a slightly edited version of my answer to the reader. Also, do read Glenn Greenwald, linked below.


There are several ways to look at this issue, but I think it’s essential to try to separate the moral/ethical implications from the legal “justification.”

Lawyers can justify almost any action. It’s what they’re paid to do. On this, see Glenn Greenwald, who lays out at some length why the “justification” to kill Awlaki was bogus. But in reading Greenwald, it’s also a good idea to bear in mind that Greenwald’s position is a pretty easy one to make. Greenwald -- who is a lawyer -- says you can’t kill a U.S. citizen without due process because the Constitution (and some other legal principles) says you can’t. For Greenwald, that’s the end of the story. As I said, an easy call.

Also, as Greenwald notes, months before the date of the “justification” memo, the media were reporting that there was a kill order on Awlaki. I don’t know if the media got that right, but if they did, then the “justification” followed the decision to kill him. The lawyers, just as usually happens in a trial, were making their case after the fact.

Another thing to bear in mind, & something Greenwald also points out, is that we don’t really know what the 50-page memo said. Greenwald implies Savage had only one source; I think Savage makes clear he had more than one source. But Greenwald’s point is well-taken – all we get from Savage’s report is the Administration’s gloss on the memo. Savage’s sources are telling him what they want him to hear. A 50-page memo obviously contains some nuance, and the Administration has not released the nuance. It’s secret. So we only know what officials in the Obama Administration want us to know.

Another point: Savage reports that the memo does not address the quality or quantity of evidence against Awlaki. The implication then is that the memo reads, “If you have evidence that Awlaki has done all this bad stuff & that he cannot reasonably be captured & is unwilling to turn himself over to U.S. authorities, then you can kill him for these reasons: blah blah blah.” That means to actually justify the killing of Awlaki, the Administration would have to have acquired some pretty good “slam dunk” evidence against him. Presumably, the bulk of whatever evidence the Administration had came from the CIA. And you know how slam-dunky the CIA has been.

I respect the civil libertarian POV that the U.S. just can’t go around killing American citizens if they have not received due process in accordance with the Constitution & U.S. laws.

BUT. I think there are exceptions.

First, on the legal issue, something Greenwald doesn’t mention -- and he wouldn’t because it undermines his argument -- this is a case of the Constitution being in conflict with itself. As Justice David Souter outlined in his Harvard commencement address last year, "The explicit terms of the Constitution ... can create a conflict of approved values, and the explicit terms of the Constitution do not resolve that conflict when it arises.” (The text is here & is worth reading. I've appended the video of Souter's speech below.) The President takes an oath to uphold the Constitution, & one of his duties as “Commander in Chief of the Army & the Navy” (Article II) is spelled out in the preamble: to “provide for the common defence” of the nation. I don’t think there’s any question but that providing for the common defense may occasionally put a Commander in Chief in conflict with the Bill of Rights or with other provisions of the Constitution. (Ask Abe Lincoln about suspending habeas corpus & about closing down newspapers that opposed the war!) You might argue that Obama should have marched his case over to the Supremes for their input on the constitutionality of targeting Awlaki, but I’m not sure I’d want to leave the defense of the nation to Nino Scalia.

As a moral issue -- as opposed to a legal one -- I don’t think it matters a whit what nationality Awlaki was. If I murdered my neighbor who is Brazilian, I’m just as guilty of murder as if I had murdered his wife who is American. I don’t get some moral free pass because the guy “isn’t even an American!” Murder is murder.

At the same time, there are “legal” killings that are immoral. I would argue, for instance, that the execution of Troy Davis – though entirely legal – was immoral. After his trial, enough reasonable doubt surfaced to suggest that, if we had a system that allowed a do-over (as does, say, Italy), there was clearly enough evidence to raise reasonable doubt of Davis’s guilt. I have no idea if Davis was or was not guilty of murder. I do have an idea that he could not be found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

As I argued in a comment in Off Times Square, not all Americans get due process. Nearly once a week, you hear of some American (on American soil) who is suspected of a heinous crime – usually but not always murder – being killed by police. Unless there is some special circumstance – like racism – usually not much of a fuss is raised about the shooting of the suspect. So quite a few Americans suspected of crimes do not get anything approaching due process. They just get shot dead.

Based on what I’ve read in the media, I think it’s pretty certain that Awlaki fomented violence against Americans. Whether he was also involved in planning & carrying out violence against Americans, I don’t know. I have only the government’s claim on that.

I also know that Awlaki did not turn himself over to U.S. authorities. Given the way the U.S. has treated enemy combatants, & given his views, this is hardly surprising. But it was an option he had, if not such a great one. He chose not to surrender.

He also put himself in a situation in which he made his capture more than a little difficult.

As I mentioned earlier, the media widely reported that there was a kill order out on Awlaki. Therefore, it is reasonable to assume that Awlaki knew he was a target and had time to think about how to deal with that.

So I equate Awlaki with the local murder suspect who knows the police are after him but who resists arrest & gets shot dead. The authorities may or may not have good evidence – evidence that would stand up in court – against Awlaki & the local suspect. But Awlaki & the suspect made essentially the same choice. They decided not to surrender; that is, not to have their days in court.

Therefore, I think that if the evidence against Awlaki was accurate – or even if the Administration merely believed the evidence that he was planning terrorist attacks against Americans – then his killing was morally justified. Tying a legal justification to his killing is a nicety, but it doesn’t carry a great deal of weight with me.

What I think civil libertarians like Greenwald fail to take into account is that Awlaki, too, was an actor in this drama, not just a bystander. He made decisions that put him in danger of being targeted and killed. These decisions were not just the ones he made after he was targeted – they include his decision to advocate for, and probably participate in, violence against Americans. There is no way to know whether the killing of Awlaki saved American lives or if his killing will instead only embolden anti-American sentiments. But I do think the Administration made a reasonable call, given what it knew. Time will tell. Or rather, may tell.

As I said, my position – and for that matter, the President’s -- is harder to make than Greenwald’s. Lines in the sand are easy to draw. Nuance is not so neat. And because it’s so messy, it’s easy to err or one side or the other. But sometimes it’s a mistake to be so sure of yourself. I think Greenwald makes that mistake quite often. There’s a good chance this is one of those times.


Here's Souter on the Constitution. He begins speaking at about 4:00 minutes in: